July 18, 2022

The Greatest Investment Of A Lifetime - Ajahn Brahmali

The Greatest Investment Of A Lifetime - Ajahn Brahmali

On this episode of Sage Advice we have as our guest, Ajahn Brahmali from Bodhinyana Monastery in Western Australia. Ajahn Brahmali was born in Norway in 1964 and first became interested in Buddhism when travelling to Japan in his 20s. After completing un...


On this episode of Sage Advice we have as our guest, Ajahn Brahmali from Bodhinyana Monastery in Western Australia. Ajahn Brahmali was born in Norway in 1964 and first became interested in Buddhism when travelling to Japan in his 20s. After completing university degrees in finance and engineering he decided that his true calling was the dedicated spiritual life of a bhikkhu - a Buddhist monk. Having heard the teachings of Ajahn Brahm he travelled to Western Australia in 1994 and took higher ordination in 1996.

Ajahn Brahmali is both a dedicated meditator and has a love for the teachings of the Buddha, and he has become widely respected for his work in both translating Buddhist texts, but also explaining the context of Early Buddhism to modern audiences. He has co-authored the book ‘The Authenticity of Early Buddhist Texts’ with Bhikkhu Sujato.

Ajahn Brahmali’s clear and thoughtful talks make the teachings of the Buddha easily accessible to all. And I personally recommend the Early Buddhism Series of teachings that I’ll be linking to in the description below.

Bearing in mind that Ajahn Brahmali has a degree in finance, in this episode he will be sharing his wisdom and experience on what the greatest investment of a lifetime really is.

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Transcript

00:00.12
sol_hanna
Welcome to Treasure Mountain the podcast that inspires and guides people to find the treasure within human experience I'm your host so Hannah on this episode of spirit stories we have as our guest Ajahn Brahmali from Bodhinyana monastery in western australia. Ajahn Brahmali was born in norway in 1964 and became interested in buddhism when travelling to japan in his twenty s after completing university degrees in finance and engineering he decided that his true calling was a dedicated spiritual life of a bhikkhu - a buddhist monk. Having heard the teachings of Ajahn Brahm he travelled to western australia in 1994 and took higher ordination in 1996 Ajahn Brahmali is both a dedicated meditator and has a love for the teachings of the buddha and he has become widely respected for his work in both translating the buddhist texts. But also of explaining the context of early buddhism to modern audiences. He has co-authored the book the authenticity of the early buddhist texts with Bhikkhu Sujato. Ajahn Brahmali's clear and thoughtful talks make the teachings of the buddha easily accessible to all and I personally recommend the early buddhism series of teachings. That I'll be linking to in the description below bearing in mind that an Brahmali has a degree in finance in this episode. He'll be sharing his wisdom and experience on what the greatest investment of a lifetime really is so join us as we seek the treasure within.

01:31.77
Ajahn Brahmali
Are.

01:33.78
sol_hanna
Welcome to Trisha Mountain bunte how are you today and are you back in western australia now.

01:37.36
Ajahn Brahmali
Um I am good. Thank you yourself. There. Yes, fortunate I If it that Jet light unfortunate is I'm not sure what's going to happen on this interview but let's let's see what what happens? whatever happens happen says I will speak see how it goes it. But.

01:49.74
sol_hanna
Like it. It could be entertaining and I believe that you've just been traveling through Europe to offer teachings and to visit family which countries did you visit.

01:59.88
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah I was the main the main reason for going is you know going back to visit my my old mom. Basically that's kind of the one. The main thing I want to do though and but as I always do when I go over there I do a bit of teachings as well. So I was in Belgium for.

02:07.47
sol_hanna
M.

02:17.97
Ajahn Brahmali
About ten days we did a nine- day retreat in Belgium which is which is fantastic and one of the great things about europe is that the it's such a small place. You know the whole of Western Europe is basically the size of western Australia and so you get people from everywhere the whole continent just comes together mergge together. And a tiny place in the countryside in Belgium and many have a retreat together people from Spain people from ah lots of people from Eastern Europe from the poleland people from the Uk. There was an american man there was a finnish guy there was when else was a dutch people of course belgian people if people from Paris arriving germans there was just. And you know, kind of coming together on this retreat which was great and so we did that and it's always inspiring. We. We had a nice place in the countryside with a large beautiful meditation hall and it's really inspiring to be able to teach people in that kind of setting and having the. You know the enthusiasm of ah people from so many different places was really really marvelous. So and then I went off to ah Germany for a day visit it a nun in Germany I'm still kind of keen on supporting the baconies around the place and there's quite a few biconies now around various places in Europe and. Different monasteries a feud monasteries in germanyators monastery in Belgium it has talked about and and various places and but they're all what is kind of fascinating about the bigies is that they're all pretty. They're all struggling basically and they all find it very hard to make ends meet and to get enough support to have enough. Financial support to really take off and and often they tend to be a bit isolated. You know they're out there on their own and and that sort of thing. So I I feel it is they they need the support and that's why I you know tried to go a little bit out of my way to see if I can do something extra for them and then I went off to Poland and I was in Poland for. Four days and and and that was ah an extraordinary experience because I I expect they always expect that western europe would be the one the place that would be most ready for you know, Buddhism but actually it turns out it's this is my impression anyway, that eastern europe or po and especially. Is actually far more ready for buddhism than than western europe but and that was very very surprising I thought kind of in a western europe everyone is fed up with a kind of with religion people are turning it towards atheism and agnosticism and they don't really have anything to live for except for the material world and they bmw is that kind of stuff you know.

04:40.20
sol_hanna
C.

04:44.61
Ajahn Brahmali
I thought well we need something more it kind of live for beingw I mean you can you can't you know? Yeah, okay, maybe live a little bit for bdo but ah, but not that much. So um, but I think but actually it seems for some reason it doesn't really have the same reach or whatever it is buddhism over there I think yeah. And but whereas in Poland it was very very palpable. How much interest there was in spirituality and that was really fascinating and I I think that a couple of reasons one of the reasons is and as we talked about just before we started here is that we talked about the success in some of the people over there in. Marketing ajam. Brahm's teaching because they been very very successful I think that's a very important factor of course. Ah, but I also think that there is a kind of excuse me natural spirituality in Poland which ah has to do with the catholic tradition over there. The catholic monasteries I mean it's one of the most. Catholic societies in the world. Ah they still have large number of catholic monasteries. They have catholic monastics and and it turns out that these monastics they're still what they call prayer is often very similar to what we call meditation practice and you know and so it seems like sometimes they achieve and. States of mind or qualities of mind which are not that different from the kind of samaddi experience that we talking about in Buddhism and then of course they're talking about these things and they you know and then of course the society is actually interested in them in these things and and so they and then they become a bit fed up with catholic. With catholic says because of all the scandals and in in catholic wasism when I kind of look for that spirituality elsewhere and they then find it in buddhism hopefully and then ah and there is that is base. You know the basis for popularity I think over there so that was actually very interesting. And I I hope we have more dealings with Poland in the future and I'm not sure exactly how far we will take those dealings but I think there's a lot of potential over there for all sorts of things to happen. That's interesting. Yeah, um.

06:43.59
sol_hanna
Absolutely yeah, we had done ah Peter Jaganzinsky in our previous episode and I was really amazed by the reach of the work that's been done over there and how how well received it has been. It's been quite astonishing I have to say.

06:58.49
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, and.

07:00.59
sol_hanna
And very hardening I think is that there's so many people and you think of the modern age as being so materialistic but actually there are so many people who are genuinely interested in spiritual development.

07:12.24
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah I you know I've always been surprised that actually not more people are interested in buddhist teachings because you know to me the buddhist teachings are really about the meaning of life and if you find the meaning of life then what? what on earth else. Are you going to do you can't just Chuck aside the meaning of life and take up something which is not the meaning of life. You know.

07:28.60
sol_hanna
And.

07:31.46
Ajahn Brahmali
To get it that this is what it's all about then you want to do it and I I suspect that a large part of the problem is just the packaging and the marketing and the way we um approach these things you know getting the message out there and there's so much you know we have seen the Dalai Lama doing the marketing for Buddhism over a long period of time and he has been. Very successful and I think in part is because he speaks a language which is very natural and very ordinary and very accessible to people and and I think we need to do the same thing and I think too often. You know we start off with the with suffering. We start off with ah you know the cessation of everything or we start off with the 4 noble truths or whatever.

08:03.99
sol_hanna
20 right.

08:10.53
Ajahn Brahmali
And then people think I don't want to you know I don't I don't want to hear but some you know I want to hear for happiness and and for you know.

08:13.33
sol_hanna
And I got a friend who's um in marketing and he said you know the the message of christianity is the best marketing message you could ever possibly have you know all you go do is swear your allegiance believe in God and then that's it you go to eternity in heaven. What a great message and then you are buddhism.

08:29.17
Ajahn Brahmali
Ah, and and it was it. Yeah yeah, we certainly do as for sure.

08:31.55
sol_hanna
Everything is suffering. It's a terrible terrible marketing message isn't it. So we've got some work to do I'd say. Ah, ah look I think you know that brings us to our core topic for today you know there is this kind of in our in western societies we have um you know this on the surface at least this very materialistic age where people. There's a lot of conditioning factors not just advertising but the culture everything is pushing people towards aspiring to gaining wealth and one of the things I've noticed because I spend far too much time on the internet is There's a lot of bloggers and youtubers and podcasters who have got. Enormous amounts of advice about what the best investment is so that you can get wealthy and have everything that you want ah but perhaps you've got a different perspective on what the greatest investment of a lifetime is although I do I do note that you've got a degree in finance as well. So um, although you got no money now. So what? What do you feel is the best investment of a lifetime.

09:48.14
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeahs that's a good I think I don't think cryptocurrency is the best one I think that's kind you got to be careful when I have one but I it's it's a very good question and I I have often one of the ways that I've always marketed my talks and. Is to say that buddhist monks are the best investment advisor around There's no one better than buddhist monks or buddhist monastics because ah, our investment advice is actually far more interesting and far more satisfying than any kind of investment advice. You get anywhere else and and so I think this is ah so I always said to be. But if you want to invest. In anything come to the buddhist Mark forget about Goldman Sachs and all this kind of investment banks. They're rubbish. They had no idea about anything this is this is where you want to come ah and I I remember one of the you know one of the interesting things is about studying finance in London which is where I was at the time. But this was actually one of the things that made me decide to become a buddhist mon because I felt this was so unsatisfying I felt felt it was so driven by greed and by kind of superficial values and by status and by all of these kind of things and I I just felt the whole thing was just. Awful and I just wanted to get away from it afterve studying it for and you know a year and a half or two years or whatever it wants and and so the whole scene really put me off I'm actually I'm actually here because I studied finance. Well, that's exaggerating, but but in part yeah, that's kind of kind of the truth of it. So ah. So so yes, and so what is the problem and what why doesn't ordinary kind of investments. Why don't they work I mean all you have to do now is you have to look up a newspaper I think I saw an article this the other day about um.

11:16.30
sol_hanna
Um.

11:24.81
Ajahn Brahmali
And people investing in cryptocurrency and they were crying their eyes out and they were kind of really really upset because they've lost so enormous amounts of money over the last few months apparently the cryptocurrencies I've been kind of plummeting and doing really really terribly and recently and that is part. None of the big problems with investment in the world is that you never It's not real investment. It's more a gambling right? That's that's what you might as well go to the casino put all your money ive won on the roulette wheel. You know as pricing in cryptocurrency because it is so incredibly uncertain what you're doing and.

11:46.15
sol_hanna
Ah.

12:00.46
Ajahn Brahmali
You might think that Cryptocurrency is a special case. Yeah because that is particularly volatile and particularly uncertain and of course that's true, but any kind of investment in the world and whether it is in the shares or it is in In. Um. And kind of you know, government papers or whether it's just putting your money in the bank Any kind of investment in the world has inherent risk to it. This has inherent certainty ah and the greater. The return the greater the risk this is kind of one of the laws of Finance. So if you want to have. High return of what you're doing. You had to place in in very risky investments and and so you know you should always be prepared to lose your money when you putt your mother into enter these kind of financial instruments anywhere around the world and.

12:42.60
sol_hanna
Okay, so one of the major problems with investing in a material sense is the uncertainty of it all I mean and we've seen recently None of people in China who had their money in the bank and they thought that was safe have lost it all as the banks are collapsing or there's some sort of fraud going on so they're they're protesting in the streets.

12:49.60
Ajahn Brahmali
Then.

12:54.47
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, right happen.

13:01.47
sol_hanna
So there's the uncertainty is a major factor but let's just put that aside for 1 moment some people do make a lot of money out of investing in the stock market or whatever else. Ah, but what is the flaw or limitation of trying to.

13:05.95
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, and.

13:12.56
Ajahn Brahmali
And.

13:20.41
sol_hanna
Yeah, because you've got to spend a lot of time doing the research and so forth. But what is the flaw and the limitation of acquiring such material wealth apart from the uncertainty.

13:22.27
Ajahn Brahmali
I.

13:30.22
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah I mean I think there is ah you know there's a number of flaws I mean one one of them is a you know certain is one of them and the other one is that in the end it doesn't give that much satisfaction Anyway, I mean this is kind of one of the things you never really get enough Money. You never have enough of these kind of things. And you're always kind of moving towards something else. Ah that is ah, an inherent flaw. You know you're not actually the the problem with the mind is that what the mind is what we're all looking for. We're looking for some kind of satisfaction in life. Ah, some kind of happiness some kind of end to suffering some sort of inner feeling that. You know where we feel where we feel our life is meaningful and worthwhile and all of these kind of things. Ah, and then we're trying to fill that psychological gap that psychological hole in our hearts in our minds or whatever it might conceive it to to exist ah with external things and it's obviouslyly not going to work because there's an inner psychological problem that we have ah. And we're trying to somehow solve it by external things from the outsider is always going to be problematic. Yeah, so the filling that psychological hole inside of us with something external is a bit like a band-aid it will give us some kind of degree of short-term satisfaction when you achieve it. But it. It's not a long-term solution to the problem. It's like having a nice meal. Okay, you have a nice meal. It's a short-term satisfaction. But of course doesn't take long before you want another meal or you you know and etc etc and this is how the whole sensory existence and of course money.

14:52.80
sol_hanna
And.

15:02.11
Ajahn Brahmali
And finance is part of that setenary existence and externally around us. Ah so it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't really satisfy if you want to find something that that satisfies and you have to look in in a tiny different direction. You have to work directly with the problem. Yeah, the problem is a mental one. It's a psychological one and you have to ask yourself. How can we fill this psychological gap within this psychological hall. This sense of lack that we kind of always always carry with us. Ah that we try to resolve with these external things and the answer that is where the spiritual path comes in there. Because there is something about spiritual happiness that is very different and from material satisfaction or material. Well-being because spiritual happiness is something that you achieve. For example, simply by being kinder to somebody. Yeah, if you are kind to someone if you say something nice to somebody. You say you know how you. Appreciate your friendship by the way Sol I Really appreciate your friendship. This is true I'm not saying this just for the sake here. It's True. It Yeah says Great. So but when you say something when you are kind to someone. There is a satisfaction that comes from Kindness. Ah, that is a very different innate.

15:57.41
sol_hanna
Oh thank you. Thank you Aja I appreciate yours as well.

16:10.34
sol_hanna
Peace.

16:15.76
Ajahn Brahmali
Then the satisfaction that comes from material things and and it is a satisfaction that doesn't have any craving coming with and doesn't have any further desires coming within it. It feels like you it is ah it' a happiness that is right here in the present moment and it is not some kind of it. It is fulfilling in a very very different way. Than the satisfaction of ah you know of acquiring wealth or whether it might be This is a.

16:35.67
sol_hanna
Okay, so you're you're saying that. Ah you know when you try toquire wealth. You'll never be satisfied in the long run because you're trying to fill a psychological need with a material answer and you've said that. Ah.

16:44.76
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, yeah.

16:55.14
sol_hanna
Developing things like kindness and friendship are inherently very satisfying and you can actually grow those feelings but here's the question we're talking about investment. How should None invest their time and energy to get. To develop this spiritual path. What what do we need to do.

17:17.54
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah, so ah, but basically what you need to do is you need to do all of those things that are you know in buddhist would be called the spiritual qualities. Ah yeah, you need to develop things that lead to kind of filling that gap within and basically. It is. It is actually incredibly simple. This is kind of the weird thing about the spiritual path. It's such a simple path. What is hard is to do it consistently because our you know our habits and our um proclivities and our kind of the way we normally do things tend to go in the different directions so you have to learn to change. You had to learn to become a different person. That is the hard part but essentially it is about being kind. Yeah, it is about speaking kind words about overcoming the habit of speaking bad things sometimes ah it is about acting with kindness towards other people somehow stopping us from acting and. You know sometimes everyone makes mistakes and that's fine, but we have to also have this aspiration to overcome those negative qualities and in ourselves. Ah to think with kindness. Yeah, this is a really really important this idea of giving people the benefit of the doubt being able to see the good qualities and other people and and forgiven the bad qualities. Ah. And then actually think positive in ah in a positive sentence about the whole world around you so this is ah and and so you develop this kind of sense of inner kindness and compassion and care and forgiveness within you, you know, ideally moment to moment all the time. Ah. And then you gradually what you're doing is that you're building up a sense of ah is almost as if the the deeper senses of dissatisfaction of suffering in life. Ah, it's almost as if they just evaporate in a white and gradually you feel a sense of contentment within it and of course that is the. And is the beginning of that path and the beginning of the path is often the most important one and then you take that further and the next step of course then is the direct development of the mind. Yeah is the meditation practice that we do that and that is why you take that even None step further and you kind of. Through a meditation object or whatever it is and you then develop that sense of contentment that sense of happiness ah to a degree that you probably have never experienced before in your entire life. Ah, and you you see things that you are just ah astonishing and that's when you really start to understand what real. Ah, contentment is and yeah and you start to understand. Actually what the very meaning of life itself is when you when you start to access some of these qualities and so the spiritual path is extraordinary, simple really and the hard part is the ah how to.

19:56.46
Ajahn Brahmali
Commit properly and to persevere in the practice. Ah that is really the hard part that is where you need to put the focus. So.

20:00.45
sol_hanna
Do You have any advice for people who maybe they've tried or they've they have sincerely engaged with the spiritual path. They've tried being kind. They've tried meditating but they're they're finding it difficult and you've said that you know. That sense of resilience is really important. Do you have any advice for people who are in that situation and how can they keep on ah going with with the path with the practice.

20:27.93
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah, yeah, absolutely and the the the thing is I think is that you um, you know sometimes people come to the spiritual path. Maybe they have some kind of spiritual experience in their life and then they you know they kind of that. Drives them on to this idea of practicing or living a spiritual life. Ah or they may have some kind of underlying ideal I think the most important thing is actually to understand the spiritual path properly that very often we don't really understand what it is about and one of the mistakes that people often do is that thing. Ah, use modern ways of kind of the you know that more like maybe maybe things that have been developed for specific psychological purposes. You have things like in the the u you have the mindfulness-based stress reduction msbr which is very famous in the u developed by this man called John Kubertzinner and what he has done is taken the idea of mindfulness out of buddhism that he has repackaged the whole thing as a secular thing which has nothing to do with Buddhist. So as to make it accessible and available and easily digestible by modern society and fair enough I can understand why he would want to do that because it can be very hard for modern people to. Understand you know to to accept a so-called religion as whether religion is actually a whether buddhism actually is a religion or not is a different story but that's how they have repackaged it but by doing that by taking the mindfulness side out of buddhism and leaving everything else aside. Ah. Actually you have a major problem because mindfulness on its own is not a separate thing that you can develop through your meditation or through your daily life mindfulness is something that actually has to be done in a context and the context of course is the entire buddhist teachings specifically the noble ed folk path that is really the context. So. A lot of people they they don't really they come up short precisely because they take the meditation out and they forget the larger context so when I advise people I would say if you're going to have to choose between meditation or say. Just practice and kindness. You should always prioritize the kindness ah because the kindness has a reward in its own right? and it will also support the meditation practice. Ah, but if all you do is meditation practice and you do that for None ears Ah you come out the other side you may be back to square None again because we haven't actually developed those inequalities. Ah. Those inequalities don't just develop naturally through meditation you need this kind of this general change of view the way you view the world the way you treat other people. This actually is really the foundation itself. Ah I heard ah at this this.

23:14.51
Ajahn Brahmali
Little bit more insult before you before I before I allow you back in again. so so I had ah I just heard ah a story from this was from Sydney I think and there was a.

23:16.85
sol_hanna
Ah, plays too.

23:27.66
Ajahn Brahmali
A lady. Apparently who said that she you know she had been meditating really hard for None ears and through that period she had never watched television because she felt television was just so distracting in her meditation practice which is fair enough and then she said that but after None ears she decided let's check out television again there? Yeah let's just see what it's like you have to try it out again. There. And then she said the moment much she turned it on or soon afterwards. Ah she was hooked again on television and so and so it was kind of obvious to me that she had been doing all the meditation practice and of course it has benefits. Of course it makes him more satisfied during the day has a lot of things. Ah. But unless you do something more unless you develop other qualities on the path unless you develop the virtue unless you develop the right view and all these kind of things that meditation itself will actually not necessarily. Yeah, be ah, be um, all that useful. And and that is I think is a very part big part of the problem now.

24:24.91
sol_hanna
That's a really interesting perspective bante especially your focus on developing kindness and perhaps generosity and I think that's an interesting one because when we see people on these channels I was a lot of people following these channels about finance. Um, podcasters and so forth. The mentality is how can I get more? How can I get more of this money more and so I can buy more stuff whereas what you're saying is To. Experience A so degree of Inner Happiness. Perhaps a very high degree. We need to ah turn that around and start saying well. How can I be kind. How can I give.

25:05.25
Ajahn Brahmali
Let's.

25:14.33
sol_hanna
Ah, that's ah, that's like the opposite mentality almost is that am I on the right track with that.

25:18.27
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah, well actually that's a very good point right? because a lot of the ah a lot of this is driven by greed. Yeah, and especially when people invest in very risky financial instruments and things Actually it is often driven by greed I Want to get wealthy and of course you end up getting depressed instead because very often you do is all you. All your money and whatever so you actually need to do the opposite thing that's precisely right? And of course generosity is precisely the opposite of ah you know the me me me I want more you know I want to give make me wealthy or whatever. That's very true and I I think that it's quite easy to see why that actually. Must be the Case. You know when you are if you're just reflecting on the idea of generosity I Think most people had times of the life when they had been very generous. They've felt this impulse to be generous towards other people and when you have that impulse. Ah, it's a very. Very beautiful quality Now. It's actually very you can feel it is a spiritually uplifting quality to be generous towards something else. So It is as if your mind expands your mind kind of gets gets larger in a certain way but within a positive way. It's like you are embracing the world around you embracing other people. Because giving is by definition embracing others because you want to include them. You want to help them out whereas the mentality of being selfish and thinking about yourself is really what you're doing is you're closing yourself off from the world around you man. Ah, building a barrier around you and everyone else. Ah, this is mine. Keep your hands off. Yeah,, don't stay away I'm not going to give you anything. This is you know Iss kind of small-mindedness where the mind becomes very centered on grasping and holding and attaching to these kind of things in the World. Ah.

26:57.59
sol_hanna
Good.

27:01.36
Ajahn Brahmali
And actually what you think about it is actually very unpleasant because it feels ah as if the whole world is a threat to you The world is there to take your stuff. Ah and you have to protect it with your life and look after it and cling onto it. Ah and and that's where it said this is why these things are so diametrically opposed one is that. Narrow small contracted mind that is fearful of the world around it The the other one. The generosity is a large mind that embraces ah and where fear largely is gone because you know you're no longer afraid of people or at least you're less afraid of people. You know taking ah advantage of you. Whatever it might be here. So I think that is a very a very critical point to actually realize that that important distinction there.

27:43.88
sol_hanna
I have to agree entirely I know that particularly in the early years when I was practicing meditation I think I took that greed mentality at certain times into my meditation so I was I was meditating to get something wanted results. Yeah, and that often led to.

27:58.40
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, yeah.

28:03.22
sol_hanna
A lot of frustration but I also know like I was very lucky because I was encouraged from a very early time to be a volunteer and I jumped into it and I do remember that one of the best meditations I ever had I was doing some volunteer work at the buddhist society and on Saturday afternoon and then. Closed up went into meditation boom it was just it just had really good meditation and it really made me reflect upon that issue of grasping. You know it can you can bring it into your meditation as well. Not just out there in the world as opposed to that.

28:25.87
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, yeah.

28:36.30
Ajahn Brahmali
Absolutely And and.

28:40.21
sol_hanna
Like you said that expansive heart. That's pretty amazing.

28:42.83
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah, yeah, yeah I think that is I think that is one of the biggest blockages often in meditation practice This idea of trying to get something yeah trying to sort of achieve things and it actually is ah you you have to you know. Anyone who has had a good meditation experience. They know that whenever it's Good. It's big precisely because you do the opposite that meditation actually works. Ah, suddenly you have a nice nice meditation and they think what happened well actually I let go of the grasping and I stopped holding onto these things. Ah, and that's kind of I think a very universal experience among people.

29:07.71
sol_hanna
And move.

29:15.82
Ajahn Brahmali
Had some kind of nice meditation experience. Ah, and so the sort of the big question you know in in life then is well. How can we? How can we let go? How does this letting go happen there and often it is presented as kind of ah a bit of a mystery. Yeah, the idea of letting go. It's as if no one really understands what how it happens how we make. How we make it work but actually it isn't really a great mystery at all the reason why letting go happens ah is because you understand the downside of the things you're holding onto and you understand the problem with the thing that you're holding onto well then actually it is far easier to let go. So in in this case, you know I'm talking about the idea of where to invest and if you understand that it's far more important to invest in spiritual qualities and kindness and erosity and these kind of things and and you understand that the investments of the world actually are very shallow. They don't really lead to any long-term benefit or whatever. The more you understand that the less you're going to grasp onto things in the world. The less you're going to grasp onto anything really and then that the letting go will happen more often in your meditation. It wont happen every time but it will happen more often because your mind is inclining in the right way and this kind of brings me back to. What you were asking before I didn't really have a chance to fully reply to that question. This was the idea of the ah how do we persevere right on the on the spiritual path. What are the things that enable us to kind of carry on without giving up. Ah. And a very important part of that is this idea of right view of looking at the world in the right right way and the germans have a beautiful wordfulness. It's called vt unhow which means like world view how we you know how we regard the world in a sense and and that. And the right view in Buddhism is very often presented at things like you know you have to believe in rebir you have to believe in comma and these kind of things and that is true I I would not kind of undre them. It. Thats very true, but it's also a bit theoretical and and intangible. It's not something that we can't often. Relate to directly because it's maybe there is maybe there's not I mean many people don't really know of these things for sure so we need to break the idea of right view down to something much more tangible now and then so the more tangible idea of right view is really to understand like where do you find happiness. Where do you find suffering here and once like in daily life right? like like like right now you know am I going to find happiness in in ah, kind of being nasty and being being unpleasant. Why am I going to find happiness and being kind and doing the right thing and so it's a very simple ideas of that which is right view and then a very important part of that.

31:55.20
Ajahn Brahmali
Precisely understanding the downside of the ¢5 world and the ¢5 world includes the idea of investing in you know in the stock market or whatever or or the idea of money being important to you Why is money important. Well obviously so we can enjoy the the sentences more we can enjoy the enjoy life more? yeah. So if you understand the downside of that and we live in times that are really a lot of people are scared. We live in times when there's kind of all kind of war is going On. We live in times when there's all this saber ratckling happening between the you know the big powers in the World. We live in times when there's dangerous, really dangerous climate change happening here. Live in times when you there's all kind of things bad things seem to be happening at the same time and and when I look at the world. The way things look this is going to probably going going to carry on for quite a while I mean these things that we have set in motion are such deep. Thing is that that it seems like to me anyway and hopefully I'm wrong, but it seems to me this is going to carry on for still a few decades into the future before we can maybe turn the ship around and kind of head head in a better direction. It's kind of been building up for a long time. Ah, and so this is a very good time to reflect on the world because this is what the buddha. Said, but this is what he meant by impermanence right? This is exactly what it means that the world is unreliable. It is impermanent. It's going to Change. We have no idea where it's going to go next. It is not that it's all bad. It's just that We don't know what's going to happen. That's almost worse that everything being bad because it has this is kind of. Fundamental Insecurity built into the world and how the world actually works. So So this is the kind of the other side of the story and I think the idea of right view and so I always recommend people to try to understand these buddhist teachings properly. Why is the spiritual life. So important. How is it distinguished from the world. Ah, Ah, why is the world often Problematic. What is the but on the back with all of these kind of things. Ah, and as you investigate those things that and this is part of what we're doing now and you start to appreciate the spiritual path your mind starts to redirect itself to what's New. New pursuits that are far more amenable or far more productive of real happiness or real contentment and getting out of suffering and all of these kind of things and so coming back to the message of the Buddha Whether you hear that in talks whether you hear that in podcasts.

34:23.74
sol_hanna
System.

34:26.94
Ajahn Brahmali
That in in in wherever even if you read the suitors. Yeah, if if you're into reading the suitors. Ah and sometimes it can be very beneficial to read the suitors for those who find that a bit inspiring and I've always come back to the dumb one never think that you know what is going on now you can practice. No, you don't know what is going on. You know, maybe a little bit about what's going on but that understanding can go far far deeper and it's important to come back to these teachings again and again and again ah to allow your right view gradually to align with the view of the Buddha that's really what we're trying to do. We're trying to see the world more with the eyes of the buddha that's kind of the point. And when you see the world more with the eyes of the buddha you're going to incline towards a spiritual practice. Ah and going to incline less towards ah investment in the world or or wherever it might be in terms of you know, worldly ideas and worldly kind of pursuits and pleasures and.

35:21.25
sol_hanna
Absolutely I think um, you've touched on the whole uncertainty. That's in the world today and I do note that a lot of that uncertainty particularly regarding climate change. For instance, the root cause of that is is so much greed is that we've been willing to destroy our natural environment. Ah. And to in this case, the atmosphere. Ah for the sake of our own greed and now we're going to have to deal with some pretty nasty results and of course here in Australia we've been having catastrophic floods again and again all over the Eastern States um

35:55.50
Ajahn Brahmali
Friends.

35:58.42
sol_hanna
So You've pointed to the uncertainty and the and the fact that you can never be satisfied with ah material gains and that brings me to my final question but it's a big one. What I mean if somebody does practice kindness and generosity and. And personal virtue. Non-harming Meditation. What can they expect as the result, what are the results of this spiritual practice. What does it feel like as a big rest.

36:29.17
Ajahn Brahmali
Ah, yeah, it it. It feels. It feels marvelous I mean it as many I speaks to this one. None thing is kind of the general sense that you are building up good qualities inside. We can see that there is a kind of gradual transformation going on and i. And that in itself is rewarding just feeling better about yourself. You know you are better now than you were maybe two years ago or whatever. It's like a general feeling of you know, just feeling feeling better about than about yourself and and that is um, you know and and ah you know the qualities I'm talking about now is is qualities of. Just being more mindful being more aware of what's happening around you which makes you feel more alive in a sense because you're more in the present instead of rushing through life. You actually you know, enjoy whatever presents itself in the moment but it also means that you are more resilient. None of the most important things we talk about these days. A lot of you know. Psychologists talk about is that they have resilience and and of course the reason why they talk about that is precisely because the world is so problematic. You need to be bloom and resilient. Otherwise you have a have a problem. So and that resilience come is because you have inner resources and that you can rely on. For you know for for your life for your existence. You are no longer so touched by external calamities and external problems. Ah because the in the resources are so strong. Yeah, so when people around you and this is always going to happen people around you get sick. They die eventually etc. Ah, yes, there may still be grief. There may still be hard to take but there will be still be something inside of you that can withstand or can deal with that problem in a better way than you could before because you have all of these ah qualities that you have more independence from the world I think is one of those very very important ideas here. As long as we take refuge in the world and by taking refuge in the world I mean that ah all our happiness comes from the world. All our happiness comes from relationships from enjoying our wealth from our career our status and all these kind of things. Ah if everything comes from that that is what I would call taking refuge in the world. Ah. And when the world goes wrong. Well you're you're going to suffer enormously. But if you start to change your refuge to those inner qualities instead. Ah then of course it is going to You're going to be more resilient to deal with the shocks of the external world. Ah, and so this is why someone who is a. Extremely good meditator will not really be too bothered about what happens in the external world. Ah you know someone like ah someone like Aju Brahm for example kind of 1 of the great heroes of modern meditation practice and he he is a very good meditator and you can see that he is not really.

39:15.18
Ajahn Brahmali
Bothered so much by what happens in the external world if people die and he knows That's the nature of that world people die. Okay, you can deal with it. Even if there's people very close to you if ah people monks in a monastery this robe. But if he gets thrown out of his kind of home monastery. If the world goes to the dogs. Ah then you know, poor dogs and but anyway that's a difference to um, you know he deals with that because he has a very powerful refuge within that that enables him to kind of to deal with these things. Ah so this is um, this is a very important aspect of this. But.

39:33.87
sol_hanna
Ah.

39:51.16
Ajahn Brahmali
Another very important aspect of what you gain is that you gain meaning and yeah you gain real meaning in your life and you know when when you feel that you are kind of moving towards something great or something larger something. You don't really know exactly where you're going because the endpoint of all of this is a bit sort of a. Really exciting but it's bit uncertain but we can see that there is ah it's possible to change yourself. It's possible to ah purify and to ennoble your personality in a way that is actually very profound and very beautiful. You get a sense of optimism. Yeah I'm actually changing I'm becoming a very different person from what I used to be here. There's a sense of some larger idea what life is about It's not just about kind of getting as much as it can in this life and amassing wealth and amassing relationships and em messing all these kind of things. Ah no, it's about some kind of deeper thing going on and that is extraordinarily meaningful and I think to me this is one of the reasons. Why. I find monastic lives so fulfilling because ah, even though None ne's meditation isn't always you know as great as it should be There's this sense of ah being part of something that is much much larger. Not just the ordinary world around us ah something more profound something more something kind of wonderful in in the kind of. Rude senses. So wonderful. There's a wonder about it. Yeah, this is this kind of something um, which is very attractive and very ah and very powerful and and to me that may in the end. It may be None of the most powerful things that. Ah messages that buddhism has for the modern world is that you will never find that sense of meaning in the ordinary world of things. Ah, you never find that sense of meaning in. Ah you know, investing on the stock market or whatever but on the spiritual path you do and I think this is one of the main reasons why it is such a. Ah. Bullwark work against them. You know you know against um, ah depression and mental problems and all of these kind of things because when you have meaning and anything is really possible and yeah you know they you know Yeah place. But.

41:52.10
sol_hanna
Like that's a beautiful beautifully stated bante and I just also wanted to you. You made me think of something that the Buddha said one of his very short sayings. Um, correct me if I've say it wrong, but he said ah it's it is better to have lovingkindness in London. Mind for the length of a finger snap than to live without lovingkindness for a hundred years. Um, as a very powerful statement and I think it really goes to that issue. What you're saying about not just both the fact that it's very meaningful but also it's uplifting to have qualities like. Love and kindness whereas if you're without that I mean it's it's ah it's like having an inner poverty really.

42:38.42
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah I think that's exactly right and inner poverty is and is a good way of ah of ah putting it and that inner poverty is is far far worse than the external poverty. The poverty of the 5 sentences which is's kind of really not all that all that significant you know I mean you.

42:54.97
sol_hanna
Through.

42:56.19
Ajahn Brahmali
Travel around the world. Ah, and you see people in poor countries and you know and people are really really poor and like you know I've been to India for example in the in Bihar Bihar is the poorest state of India and you see people. Ah, living in little shacks and and and kind of and and sometimes these people have big smiles on their face you know and it's obvious that they they don't feel depressed. They don't feel anything like that and it just shows you that the mental aspect of the world is far far more important than the physical or external aspect. Ah. And I always like to tell a story. It. None of my kind of favorite stories to kind of really make this point and that was ah a book I received from my girlfriend I okay, not not not a present ago. This is that messing alo this is this is a long time ago. This is.

43:33.10
sol_hanna
What if you've got a girlfriend is ah what.

43:44.97
Ajahn Brahmali
This was when I still was still missing around in the world this it must be about thirty five years ago or something and she gave me a book and and this book was called ah human beings and happiness or something like that and this book was written by efeo who had just come out of the second world war as it was in Norway. His name was ah George de gaardic brockman or something like that George Brockman and he this book was written in 1946 none just after the second world war in Norway and what he said in this book was really fascinating. It kind of opens your mind to ah seeing the world and seeing everything in a completely different light and. Because he said that many people have experienced time during the second world war when things were quite bad in places like no it wasn't as bad as in continental europe but it was still pretty bad. Ah yeah, you had ah. Ah, people being sent off to concentration camps. Ah you had the large population in prison they were imprisoned by the germans ah you had people kind of going off into the forest to kind of have a rearguard your reaction against the germans ah you had bombs being dropped not that much. No but still in certain places quite a lot to There was a rationing of food. There was rationing of clothes. Yeah, all of these kind of things. Ah it was a difficult time for almost everyone ah and he said that that period during the second world war that was so difficult for many people. It was more happy. It was better than the period before the None world war right.

45:10.40
sol_hanna
So.

45:13.61
Ajahn Brahmali
And and it is kind of astonishing and when I since reading that whenever I kind of look at a war on Tv I never look at war in quite the same way anymore I think about war in a completely different way than I used to used to and he said the reason for that was because this was his reckoning anyway was because. During the second world war even though the externals ah were so different. The the internals and were actually also very different because because of that sense of ah, ah, ah of challenge in the world outside because of your entire livelihood or your your world was kind of collapsing around you you band it together you look after it.

45:48.80
sol_hanna
And.

45:51.64
Ajahn Brahmali
More compassion for each other you helped each other out you were more generous to the people around you who didn't have what you had So essentially what he was saying because the external work was what didn't call that you had no choice but to develop the inner world instead you developed spiritual qualities. That's essentially what he was saying it.

45:56.97
sol_hanna
Are.

46:11.42
Ajahn Brahmali
So and so ah, the kind of the know the the obvious what is going on there very obviously is the fact that that you realize that for human happiness what is far more important than the external thing is whether it's investing whether it is the None sentences or whatever it is far more significant to build up the inequalities instead. Ah. Spiritual path is far more important for well-being than the world outsider. That's essentially kind of what he what he decided based on that experience and and so now when I you know when I look at the the world and when I look at the wars in Ukraine and all that kind of things. Yes. There is a lot of suffering but sometimes we don't see the full picture in it and there are people there on the ground who actually may very well be feeling more meaning more purpose more banding together. In fact, I have seen precisely that being reported I I read a newspaper article somewhere about a woman who was. Interview and she said exactly the same thing as this norwegian guy after the second world war I said actually I don't dare to say this but I'm more happy now than it was before and so ah so and this to me is kind of the ah the proof of the the pudding so does being here.

47:15.90
sol_hanna
Mm.

47:20.29
sol_hanna
Absolutely and I've I've heard that as well like some of the I spoke to radan from the czech republic and Peter from Poland and they were saying now you know people were opening up their houses to to Ukrainian refugees and it gave them a real sense I guess a purpose but also. Connection. Um that they're all working together for for a common cause and doing good things well look I really yeah, appreciate your time a John I think perhaps um, the summary. Ah for those of you've lost all your cryptocurrency or you know the share market's down twenty thirty percent this year

47:44.56
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, yeah.

47:58.34
sol_hanna
You can still be happy. Wouldn't you say? um.

48:00.34
Ajahn Brahmali
Yeah, no, it's that it's not yeah you know? yeah I don't know if you want to go any longer so but the apps of course you can't go you have to stop now. Is it a kind of a limit on this bluecasso. There's not limit.

48:04.38
sol_hanna
Yeah.

48:11.30
sol_hanna
No, no, we there's no li.

48:17.48
Ajahn Brahmali
So and it's not only that we can be happy, but it's that when you lose all your money or lots of their money or part of your money or whatever on the stock market or in cryptocurrency. Actually it is a good opportunity to Change. There's like a good opportunity to look at the world in a new way and to understand things in a new way. Every time there is a problem every time the world goes to the dog and goes to the to the I can hear a dog in the background maybe is receiving the bit of the worldly aspect. You get a message. Yeah so every time there is a problem. Actually it is an incredible opportunity for spiritual grow and this is.

48:43.18
sol_hanna
He's getting a message. Yeah.

48:52.32
sol_hanna
That.

48:54.21
Ajahn Brahmali
This is really kind of the the thing here. So whenever you lose your money don't ah don't despair instead of doing that remember you know the famous teaching in my good bad who knows yeah the good bade who know teaching is really such an important thing you don't know the outcome. The ultimate Outcome. Of many of the difficult things that happen over life actually because and because you don't know the ultimate outcome Any problem can actually be a story for something greater for something larger because you get an insight some understanding about the nature of the world and that is what is really? ah.

49:16.57
sol_hanna
Are.

49:28.94
Ajahn Brahmali
That is the potential in these kind of things sometimes we become incredibly stupid when life goes too Well when everything is kind of going really nicely and there is no problems in the world that we become stupid because we think this is the word. The world is supposed to be in it. But of course that's completely wrong. The world is not supposed to be like that. The world is supposed to be uncertain. And because it is uncertain. There's always the potential always that just around the corner. It might be the um your next problem already building up and then ah suddenly it arrives and bang everything collapses. Ah you lose all your money you lose ah whatever in it and that's just the nature of things. So This is an opportunity. And once you understand the suffering as an opportunity the suffering itself actually reduces in Magnitude quite a lot because of that.

50:13.10
sol_hanna
How sad is so well said and I've noticed that as well over the past twenty eight years I've been involved in Buddhism is that often. There's a crisis that brings people to the practice that got cancer. They've lost their marriage is broken down in the but in a bad way. It's it feels like they've lost everything. And that is the thing that can like you say it's an opportunity That's let's get started. Let's find a new way to find happiness. Yeah.

50:39.30
Ajahn Brahmali
So yes, and I but but there's None more None more thing so I don't know if you want to again, just just tell me when you want to stop because I you know I can probably can probably go on forever. It. There's so much to be said I said about all of this you know and this these are such important topics. But i. Just wanted to come back again to where we started off about the idea of ah investing that's kind of what we're what we're talking about and the kind of the downsides of ah of investment and all of these kind of things and you know when you None thing is the the fact that investment doesn't give you worldly investments placing in money.

51:01.85
sol_hanna
Boom.

51:17.45
Ajahn Brahmali
In, whatever it doesn't really give you all that such great satisfaction that that's the None thing. The none thing is the uncertainty with these things you might very well lose your money right? and that sort of takes away a lot of the interest when you really understand the uncertainty and things. Ah, actually that is very um. Very problematic for for that kind of investment and you can see when people grieve and they get really upset about losing the money in cryptocurrency. Basically they haven't really understood the uncertainty yet if they have understood the uncertainty in the none place they wouldn't grieve because they would realize well this was actually part of the problem to begin with ah. And that shows you the potential for just reflecting on the idea of impermanence reflecting on the idea of uncertainty if you really get it that you will never grieve when things go wrong and because you understand already day beforehand that there is a problem there. The fact that you griev means you haven't really got it fully maybe parched it but not fully her. So that idea of reflecting on the downside of the world on on impermanence itself. Ah actually allows you gradually release from that world and gradually understanding the problem with that and but the really you know the the really.

52:18.40
sol_hanna
Yeah, ah.

52:30.10
Ajahn Brahmali
Sure that the way the buddha puts this and I think there's such a beautiful way of talking about this whole thing and he says that actually we don't really own things in the none place. Ah, the problem is this idea of ownership this is mine this belongs to me. This is my. Money. This is my house. This is my car. This is my relationship. This is my position in society. Whatever it is ah but actually we don't own these things in the none place and the problem is the sense of ownership but because the moment you think you own it. You think you have a right to control it. You think you should always be. There. It should be something that you can actually ah basically control in your life. But of course you can't so the Buddha says the right way of thinking about everything in our life is not as things we own. But as things we borrow where yeah, everything in our life are borrowed things. Ah. Including our house including all our possessions including our relationships including our status in society. Everything is just borrowed. Ah and when you think of everything as borrowed. Ah it changes your attitude to things around you dramatically and None way of understanding that is to understand well what is the difference between. Ah car that you so-called own. Yeah, but your car and you compare that your car to a car you rent from a rent a herd. So whatever it is ah what is the difference between your relationship between those 2 things. Ah and that the difference actually is quite significant. Yeah, if someone.

53:47.73
sol_hanna
Um, ah.

54:00.91
Ajahn Brahmali
You get a scratch in your car. You get really upset if ah if you get a scratch in the rental car. You just whatever you just shrug your shoulders. You're not really too concerned about it. Ah and and you might be I mean if you're a decent person. You're not going to scratch it deliberately of course. But you know it still happens and.

54:06.50
sol_hanna
Um, true true.

54:17.68
Ajahn Brahmali
And so your your attitude towards the whole world starts to change because you start to look at things in a different way. It is all worlded and then then the Buddha says. Well what is the 1 thing that is not moral. Is there anything that is not borrowed ah and the answer is yes the Buddha says there's 1 thing that isn't borrowed and that is your.

54:33.36
sol_hanna
Are.

54:37.69
Ajahn Brahmali
Comema, your comma is not borrowed. Yeah it is it specifically says that comma is yours this is what you own is a kind of one of the standard little blocks or passages that you find in the suit as everywhere and that you are the owner of your own comma and that. And strictly speakingking even that isn't quite true because come by itself of course over the very long term it kind of evolved and it changes or whatever. But it's far more true to say that comma is yours compared to the things around your world. Ah so what is comma. But comma is basically your inner qualities. Yeah is what we're talking about all the way through this podcast that if you develop good qualities of mind. Essentially you're making good comma and you know you're making good comma because you're feeling more happy that's kind of the that's the result. Yeah, you have done all the right things you're feeling more calm feeling more happy. It does not mean that you have to make massive changes in your life sometimes people think that if the the world is going going wrong? Maybe None should become a monastic and of of course it's fine to become a monastic but that's not really the main issue. The main issue is to be able to live. Life with spiritual qualities and any life can be lived with spiritual qualities ah maybe not any life maybe not if you are a mafia member but you know most lives can be lived with spiritual qualities right and because it is about how you treat people in daily life. It's about how you whether you are you know. You bring the spirituals qualities into your family life into your work life into your hobbies into all of these things. Ah that is really what it is about ah so ah in the you know in the longer run you want to really focus on those things that you actually can take with you. Those things that actually are really yours not on the borrowed goods that you have to cast away anyway and that is kind of the the difference here and then when you come to your grave. Yeah, you're finally going to die. Ah, you're going to feel satisfied. You feel like you have lived your life in a good way. You feel like I have done something positive in this world. And we can die peacefully you can die with a good heart. You can die in a way that you don't feel sense of despair because everything has to be left behind it whereas the person who only lives for material things only lives for status only lives for relationships and. Yeah, and doesn't really consider the deeper side of things. Ah when they come to the death bed. It's going to be agonizing. It's going to be really really hard because everything they have done in their life but everything they have built up everything they have focused on everything they have lived for has to be given up. Ah.

57:05.80
sol_hanna
Then.

57:13.42
sol_hanna
That.

57:19.31
Ajahn Brahmali
Imagine the pain and I imagine of course because that your life your whole life is about you Come to your deathbed you feel that there is no meaning in all of this ah you feel a sense of despair you feel that have I wasted my life I had the opportunity to do something more something better.

57:19.39
sol_hanna
My ah.

57:37.70
Ajahn Brahmali
How I wasted my entire life. Maybe you know that is kind of thing that you get to that you know when you come to your deathbed. Especially if you have pursued all of those um, worldly things maybe by being a bit ah immoral sometimes because if the world thinks is all there is well maybe it is okay to take a few shortcuts. ah maybe it's okay to ah you know do lie a little bit here or cheat a little bit there because after all if the world is really what matters then a little bit of cheating is probably all right? Ah yeah, and then you come to your debt but not only have you can't you take anything with you assuming that there is a future after that. But you have actually destroyed so of your inequalities at the same time. Ah what what? if there is an afterlife if there is a rebirth ah and of course the Buddha says there is ah actually you're worse. Ah you, you're in a worse position than what you were when you started out in this life. Ah, and you can. And so you are you have really let yourself down big time. So this is kind of the final position of Buddhism and one of the positions. None of the the final kind of argument of why external wealth or external investment in the world doesn't really work because you can't take it with you into a future life. This is where the idea of rebirth comes in and this is one of the reasons why having an idea of a future life actually has a massive impact on your spiritual practice. Ah because it teaches you something about what life is like in the long term. Yeah and what kind of the bigger picture of the world is like. If you come to your deathbed and and if you want to carry on into the future with having built up some wealth having invested in qualities. You can take with you beyond even the present life and and this is why I say monastics we are the ones are really into long-term investment. Yeah, and everyone else had no idea investment at all and completely clueless. Ah.

59:22.72
sol_hanna
Ah.

59:27.17
Ajahn Brahmali
So long-term investment actually means taking into account the idea of future lives as well. That is where so if you are concerned about long-term investment in this life which everyone is ah surely you should also be concerned about long-term investment Also beyond this particular life. Ah.

59:30.92
sol_hanna
M.

59:45.15
Ajahn Brahmali
And that is kind of the final answer and this is where all the modern investment Advisors Fail Miserably Why do they fail basically because they have wrong viewer.

59:52.34
sol_hanna
I think that closes the argument. Ah Ajan that's ah, very persuasive I think everyone listening and now it makes it very very clear that you need to invest your energy and time into developing these spiritual qualities and that is the thing that is most worthwhile investing in.

59:58.53
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, and I felt made this earth. But.

01:00:12.12
sol_hanna
Thank you very much. Ah John for us taking the time today to to give your advice and perspective on the greatest investment of a lifetime.

01:00:20.30
Ajahn Brahmali
Um, okay, thanks so much so and take care. Okay.

01:00:22.21
sol_hanna
Thank you take it.

 

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Ajahn Brahmali was born in Norway in 1964. He first became interested in Buddhism and meditation in his early 20s after a visit to Japan. Having completed degrees in engineering and finance, he began his monastic training as an anagarika (keeping the eight precepts) in England at Amaravati and Chithurst Buddhist Monastery.

After hearing teachings from Ajahn Brahm he decided to travel to Australia to train at Bodhinyana Monastery. Ajahn Brahmali has lived at Bodhinyana Monastery since 1994, and was ordained as a Bhikkhu, with Ajahn Brahm as his preceptor, in 1996. In 2015 he will be entered his 20th Rains Retreat as a fully ordained monastic and received the title Maha Thera (Great Elder).

Ajahn Brahmali’s knowledge of the Pali language and of the Suttas is excellent. Bhikkhu Bodhi who translated most of the Pali Canon into English for Wisdom Publications called him one of his major helpers for the recent translation of the “Numerical Discourse of the Buddha”. He has also published two essays on Dependent Origination and a book called “The Authenticity of the Early Buddhist Texts” with the Buddhist Publication Society in collaboration with Bhante Sujato.

The monastics of the Buddhist Society of WA (BSWA) often turn to him to clarify Vinaya (monastic discipline) or Sutta questions. They also greatly appreciate his Sutta and Pali classes. Furthermore he has been instrumental in most of the building and maintenance projects at Bodhinyana Monastery and at the emerging Hermit Hill property in Serpentine.

Ajahn Brahmali

Apart from the regular talks at Dhammaloka Centre in Perth Ajahn Brahmali and Ajahn Sujato have also lead two ongoing courses on Early Buddhism and Kamma and Rebirth in 2014 and 2015.

Ajahn Brahmali’s clear and thoughtful talks make the teachings of the Buddha easily accessible to all. As his teachings and Sutta Retreats in Australia were getting more and more popular over the years and as the word about him spread, he started to travel to Singapore, Indonesia and Sri Lanka recently to share his knowledge and experience.